[Librezale] Fwd: Mozilla IRC meeting

[Ander Gmail]

Aupa!
nire iritzi xumea:

a) SUMO ez dut ezagutzen, beraz ez naiz bere garrantziaz jabetzeko gai. 
Beraz no coment arrazoi horregatik.
b) Ez daukat interesik erabaki mailan, gustatuko litzaidake irekia 
izatea eta guzti hori baina ez nago hain inplikatua komunitate horretan.
c) estrategiari dagokionez, deja vu itzela sentitu dut. Zenbatetan 
pentsatu dudan hori!!!!
   Googleko diruak hainbeste marketingera bideratu beharrean thunderbird 
eta calendar indartu beharko lituzkete.
gabonetan idatziko dut artikulu bat librezalen ordenagailuaren disko 
aldatzea dela eta kubuntu, fedora (KDE), ubuntu  eman dudan bidearen 
berri. Ubuntura itzultzearen arrazoi nagusi bat thunderbird izan da. 
Kmail eta evolution ez daude bere mailan eta hori mozillak nahiko 
abandonatua duela.
Calendarrekin egiten dabilena delitua da. Ez dio batere baliabiderik 
ematen eta thunderbird outlooken pareko bihurtzen duen gahigarria da, 
lotsagarria.
Calendar estatistikek [1] argi erakusten dute LAN TRESNA dela (ikus aste 
bukaeretan behera eta aste barruan gora nola egiten duen astero).
Beldur naiz googlek chrome indartzen bada diru sarrerak moztu eta orduan 
ez marketin ez thunderbird.

beno hau nire iritzi tristea.
Ander.







[1] 
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/calendar/2010/11/the_growth_of_our_download_num.html

2010/12/13 10:40(e)an, Julen(e)k idatzi zuen:
> Aupa,
>
> Mozilla komunitateko partaide batzuen izenean mezu hau bidali digute 
> es-ES, pt-PT, sl eta eu-ko kideei.
>
> Bilera urtarrilaren 8rako dago jarrita eta urruti dagoen arren, bertan 
> izango naiz ziurrenik. Aparteko puntu edo iritzirik gehitu nahi duzue?
>
> Eskerrik asko!
> Julen.
>
> -------- Jatorrizko mezua --------
> Gaia: Mozilla IRC meeting
> Data: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 13:42:32 +0100
> Nork: Iacopo Benesperi <iacopo.benesperi a bildua mozillaitalia.org>
> Nori: toniher a bildua softcatala.cat
>
> Hi everyone,
> you all should know that we're organizing an IRC meeting to discuss
> about Mozilla and communities. Me, Toni (Catalan community) and
> Francisco (Spanish community) did a little pre-meeting to write down a
> first draft of what to discuss, and to fix a possible date and time for
> the meeting. Feel free to add points to the discussion, and to ask for a
> date/time change if you want to attend the meeting but can't in that 
> moment.
>
> The proposed date/time for the meeting is January 8th at 11 am CET (10
> am GMT).
>
> We'd like to discuss these points:
>
> 1. Situation of SUMO and related problems
> 2. Community involvement in decision-making
>     * Community Council proposal
>     * community involvement in engagement
> 3. Concerns on the Mozilla strategy
>     * Too much marketing nowadays
>     * Too much focus on Firefox only
>     * We'd like to see more focus on Mozilla technologies
>     * We'd like to see more importance given to other Mozilla products
>       (Seamonkey, Thunderbird, Calendar)
>     * Drumbeat & reaching new diverse members
> 4. Impressions we have on how Mozilla Europe is working
>     * Transparency
>     * Board election and rotation
>     * Open governance model
>
> You may not agree/be interested in all points, but that's why we want to
> make a discussion :-)
>
> After the meeting, our idea is to write down an open letter for the
> other communities around the world and Mozilla to be signed and
> commented. I'll write a first draft of it and we'll modify it until we
> all agree with its content and shape.
> When we're done with writing, I'll prepare a dedicated page for the
> letter, and we have to decide where to host it (I volunteer with my
> personal domain, or maybe the Italian community wants to host it?), the
> important thing is to have control over it. We'll then advertise this
> page in the Mozilla world, like planet and l10n ng.
>
> Well then, feel free to add your contribution to the points to be
> discussed and please confirm your partecipation if you can.
>
> The meeting will be on the freenode irc server (irc.freenode.net), the
> channel will be #mozilla-meeting
>
> bye,
> Iacopo Benesperi
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